X200 vs 6150
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There are 3 versions of the ATI Xpress 200M:
1) Xpress 200M / X200 for Intel:
Slow 350MHz core, slow shared memory, and has 2 pixel pipelines and 2 vertex pipelines. Based on the X300 GPU. This is the worst one.
2) Xpress 200M / X200 for AMD:
Slow 350MHz core, slow shared memory, and has 4 pixel pipelines and 2 vertex pipelines. Based on the X300 GPU. Pretty good integrated GPU.
3) Xpress 200M / X200 for AMD with 128MB Dedicated VRAM:
Slow 350MHz core, fast dedicated memory, and has 4 pixel pipelines and 2 vertex pipelines. Based on the X300 GPU. Best GPU, since it has dedicated memory instead of shared like all the rest.
The Xpress 200M was later tweaked with a faster clock speed and marketed as the 1100, then further tuned and marketed as the 1150. It was then replaced by the even faster 1250 and 1270's, which are based on the X700.
Then you have the 6150. There are 3 main variants of this family.
The 6100, the 6150 (with 2 pixel pipelines), and the 6150 (with 4 pixel pipelines). Most laptops that use the 61** GPU are the 4 pixel pipelines and 1 vertex pipeline variants. It uses shared memory, but it has a much faster clock speed of 475MHz. The 6100 is a slower variant (running at 425MHz) and has less video features- but is pretty much the same. There are no 6150's to my knowledge that come with dedicated VRAM in notebooks.
I happen to own two laptops that have these two GPU's (both use shared memory). One is in a Compaq Presario V2000Z, and it uses an Xpress 200M (AMD) with shared memory. The other is in an HP Pavilion DV6000Z, and it uses a GeForce Go 6150 (4 pixel pipeline variant). They are very similar in performance, but the 6150 comes out on top. If you are lucky enough to be looking at a X200 with dedicated graphics, choose that over all of these. It will provide much better performance.
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1) Xpress 200M / X200 for Intel:
Slow 350MHz core, slow shared memory, and has 2 pixel pipelines and 2 vertex pipelines. Based on the X300 GPU. This is the worst one.
2) Xpress 200M / X200 for AMD:
Slow 350MHz core, slow shared memory, and has 4 pixel pipelines and 2 vertex pipelines. Based on the X300 GPU. Pretty good integrated GPU.
3) Xpress 200M / X200 for AMD with 128MB Dedicated VRAM:
Slow 350MHz core, fast dedicated memory, and has 4 pixel pipelines and 2 vertex pipelines. Based on the X300 GPU. Best GPU, since it has dedicated memory instead of shared like all the rest.
The Xpress 200M was later tweaked with a faster clock speed and marketed as the 1100, then further tuned and marketed as the 1150. It was then replaced by the even faster 1250 and 1270's, which are based on the X700.
Then you have the 6150. There are 3 main variants of this family.
The 6100, the 6150 (with 2 pixel pipelines), and the 6150 (with 4 pixel pipelines). Most laptops that use the 61** GPU are the 4 pixel pipelines and 1 vertex pipeline variants. It uses shared memory, but it has a much faster clock speed of 475MHz. The 6100 is a slower variant (running at 425MHz) and has less video features- but is pretty much the same. There are no 6150's to my knowledge that come with dedicated VRAM in notebooks.
I happen to own two laptops that have these two GPU's (both use shared memory). One is in a Compaq Presario V2000Z, and it uses an Xpress 200M (AMD) with shared memory. The other is in an HP Pavilion DV6000Z, and it uses a GeForce Go 6150 (4 pixel pipeline variant). They are very similar in performance, but the 6150 comes out on top. If you are lucky enough to be looking at a X200 with dedicated graphics, choose that over all of these. It will provide much better performance.
Hope this helps
.Thanks buddy, that does help. The thing is that I had a Compaq V5000 notebook (3300+ sempron) with the X200M; it said 128MB memory and took 128MB out of my ram at all times. I sold that notebook to get the Presario F500 with Athlon X2 and go6150. This new one cost tme 50 dollars to upgrade (106 with tax) so I wanted to know if i got ripped off or not.
The go6150 takes 64mb out of my RAM at all times, but in the dxdiag display tab it says "approx total memory 281MB".
I was also thinking that if the RAM is faster (DDR 333 for the old one, DDR2 533 for the new one) it will have better performance.
The go6150 takes 64mb out of my RAM at all times, but in the dxdiag display tab it says "approx total memory 281MB".
I was also thinking that if the RAM is faster (DDR 333 for the old one, DDR2 533 for the new one) it will have better performance.
Your F500 with Go 6150 (along with it's dual core Tyler) should provide better performance all over. The V5000Z also uses the old desktop Socket 754, so you would never be able to upgrade to a mobile X2 if you stuck with it. Your new F500 uses Socket S1 (much better).
To bump up your VRAM size, go to BIOS (press F10 at startup), go to the System Configuration tab, and then next to VRAM size, change it to 128MB. Then press F10 to save, exit, and restart. It reads "approx total memory 281MB" because that's how much Vista can totally allocate to your video card (including what is set in BIOS). Mine reads 394MB, with 128MB allocated all the time. So if you game, it might be a good idea to increase it (if you have the RAM to spare).
So for $106, I think you got a good deal on your upgrade.
To bump up your VRAM size, go to BIOS (press F10 at startup), go to the System Configuration tab, and then next to VRAM size, change it to 128MB. Then press F10 to save, exit, and restart. It reads "approx total memory 281MB" because that's how much Vista can totally allocate to your video card (including what is set in BIOS). Mine reads 394MB, with 128MB allocated all the time. So if you game, it might be a good idea to increase it (if you have the RAM to spare).
So for $106, I think you got a good deal on your upgrade.
The X700, even with hypermemory (which I don't think they make non-discrete X700's for mobile platforms), would still kill everything else since it has 8 pixel pipelines (and 6 vertex pipelines). Speedwise, it's exactly the same as the X200 (clock is much slower than 6150), but those extra pipes really open things up.
The X550 on the other hand is certainly also a step up from the 6150, but I think those are mainly low-end desktop cards (beefed up PCI-e versions of 9600's). I don't think the X550 is being used in notebooks.
Just about anything modern with dedicated VRAM should be able to outperform any mobile integrated graphics card that's out there (no matter how sucky it is, because integrated graphics are already the lowest of the low).
The X550 on the other hand is certainly also a step up from the 6150, but I think those are mainly low-end desktop cards (beefed up PCI-e versions of 9600's). I don't think the X550 is being used in notebooks.
Just about anything modern with dedicated VRAM should be able to outperform any mobile integrated graphics card that's out there (no matter how sucky it is, because integrated graphics are already the lowest of the low).
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