vernong1992: AMD need to be a top line competitor again thats for sure, I hope Barcelona scales well because AMD really need to get a grip again in the server market, at the moment the only thing apart from speculation about scaling ability that barcelona has going for it is dubious performance/watt ratings that AMD have conveniently made up a new standard for just to muddy the waters. If barcelona doesnt scale better than the new xeons in multi-way server applications then AMD's bottom line for the foreseeable future is bad, and thats something no-body wants.