Which processor?

[veg1992]

go with intel core 2 duo, the fastest processorss in the world (unless u count quad-core)

 

[Rawmaterial]

so should i get this

CPU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103588
Mobo- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131568

or

CPU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819115005
Mobo- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813135022


the PCI-Express speeds, on the bottom board is it different from the top board?

 

[Rawmaterial]

and how do these times differ from intel times?




Top 10 SuperPi 1M Times for AMD Processors

1. before 21.992s / DFI UT nF4 Ultra-D / FX-57 @ 3796MHz / 2-2-2-3 1T (4:5) / Cascade
2. The Jester 25.602s /Athlon64 3200@2.7, 2.5-3-3-5 DDR400@333(Divider) , Abit Ax8 v1, Big Typhoon
3. rustynator 25.703s / DFI nF4 SLi-DR / 3700+ SD @ 3230 Mhz / 3-3-3-8 1T (1:1) / Big Typhoon
4. tytlyf 26.156s DFI nF4 Ultra-D / 148 Opteron @ 3179 MHz / 2.5-3-3-5 1T (1:1) / CNPS9500
5. PCNerd 26.375s / DFI nF4 Ultra-D / Opteron 148 @ 3147 Mhz / 2-3-3-7 1T (5:6) / Big Typhoon
6. Ihatethedukes 26.625s /DFI SLI-DR/Opteron 165 @ 3.12GHz/Centon BH-5 1.5-2-2-0-1T(7/10)/ TDX
7. revan05 26.641s /ECS KA3-MVP/FX-62 @ 3.19ghz/Crucial PC2-5300 4-4-3-12 1T
8. Zeonic Warrior 26.828s DFI Ultra-D / A64 3700+ SD @ 3138 Mhz / 2-2-2-10 1T 166 / XP-90C
9. Namrac 26.859s/ DFI Ultra-D / A64 3700+ SD @ 3100 MHz / 1.5-2-2-2 1T (5:6) / Typhoon
10. billbartuska 26.719 / ASUS A8N32-SLI-D / Athlon64 FX57 @ 3100 Mhz / 2.5-4-3-0 1T (1:1) / WaterTyphoon

Top 10 SuperPi 32M Times for AMD Processors

1. before 19m 53.593s / DFI nF4 Ultra-D / FX-57 @ 3701MHz / 2-2-2-3 1T (1:1) / Cascade
2. OC Newbie 21m 22.875s / DFI LP SLI-DR Expert / Opty 148 @ 3.43 GHz / 1.5-2-2-5 1T (5:6) / Mach II GT
3. tytlyf 23m 47.703s / DFI LP NF4 Ultra-D / 148 Opteron @ 3100Mhz / 2.5-4-3-5 1T 1:1 / CNPS9500
4. lolicious 24min 22.297s / DFI nF4 SLi-DR / 3700+ SD @ 3006 Mhz / 2.5-4-3-5 (9:10) / Vapo SE
5. mudd 24m 49.234s / MSI Neo4-f/ AMD Opty 165 1.8 @ 3.0/ 3-4-4-7 2t (1:1) / Big Typhoon
6. MAXMAX22 25m 17.312s / Asus A8V Deluxe / Opteron 148 @ 3014 / 2-2-2-5 1T (5:6) / H20
7. metalman2785 25m 26.469s / Biostar T-Force / Newark 4000+ @ 3219 MHz / 2.5-3-3-8 2T (1:1) / H20
8. Gitarooman 25m 40.992s / Epox 9NPA Ultra / 4000+ San Diego @ 3000 MHz / 2.5-3-3-5 1T (1:1) / XP
9. zeus 25m 49.625s / DFI nF4 SLI-DR / 4000+ San Diego @ 2800Mhz / 2.5-3-3-6 1T (1:1) / XP-90
10. tatted_taz 25m 52.047s / DFI nF4 Ultra D / 3700 San Diego @ 2904Mhz / 2-2-2-5 (5/6) 1T / XP-90

 

[Rawmaterial]

Opterons are server CPUs. This means they're designed with the "slower but safer" concept in mind. The instruction set is limited, not containing as many game-oriented instructions as normal desktop CPUs. Opterons tend to suck at SuperPi for some reason (weak FPU?)

As I said above, for normal use, get an E6300; for overclocking, get an E6400.

what do you mean by desktop cpu's?

 

[Meithan]

By "desktop" CPUs I mean processors oriented for home use in a desktop computer. The other two big categories are "server" and "mobile". Servers CPUs trade speed for reliability, and mobile CPUs trade speed for low power consumption. For applications such as gaming, desktop CPUs are the best.

The current desktop CPUs are the Athlon64 family, Sempron64 family and the FX series on the AMD side, and the Celeron family, Pentium 4 family and Core 2 Duo family on the Intel side.

About the times, all of Intel's Core 2 Duo processors get times below 30s at Super Pi 1M. My $187 E6300 does 29.6 seconds at the stock speed of 1.86Ghz. It does around 27s when overclocked to merely 2Ghz. (The list you posted, however, is a bit old, since it doesn't have AMD's new dual-core Athlons)

Concerning your choice of parts, I'd suggest this:

Core 2 Duo E6300 1.86Ghz
Gigabyte GA-965P-S3

It's an excellent combo.

 

[Rawmaterial]

is this mobo limited for a c2d system?


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813135022

 

[Meithan]

is this mobo limited for a c2d system?


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813135022

Limited? No, it supports 1066Mhz FSB and 800Mhz DDR2 memory. However ECS is not known for its high quality products, so I'd try to avoid it. Not that your system won't work with it, but a Gigabyte or Asus board would be a better choice in the long run. The one I suggested is an excellent motherboard and has been tested thoroughly.

 

[Poizen22]

if you plan on buying a mobo dont get anything besides asus many will say other wise even for ocing the the asus boards are good now as they have a 680i chipset

 

[Meithan]

if you plan on buying a mobo dont get anything besides asus many will say other wise even for ocing the the asus boards are good now as they have a 680i chipset

What? Your wording is poor, man. Please type more carefully.

Also, "only get Asus" is a bad advice. There are other good brands on the market (Gigabyte, DFI, etc).

Besides, the Gigabyte board I posted is excellent, and it has been tested much more thoroughly than any Asus board. The 680i chipset is too expensive to be worth considering here.

 

[ThirdLeft152]

first off those amd super pi times differ greatly from my system. e6400 @ 2.8, 2gb ddr2 800 3-3-3-8 which gets me about 18.7-19s.
second, i would go with the e6300, the multipliers don't mean that much sure its a higher multiplier but in the end they'll both oc to about the same, it just means less stress on your ram. if you get a decent mobo and a good cooler, you might be able to hit 3.6ghz.
if you can scrap together about $140 i would go with the ds3.